So...again. I honestly think gaming is at a crisis point in terms of pricing. Underlying this crisis point is the death of affordable computing, and the destruction of the low end market over the past few years. It's what's driving the whole "peak gaming" thing I mentioned. Again, it's like peak oil, but for gaming. With peak oil, basically, oil production fails to keep up with rising demand due to supply limitations, driving up cost. Kinda like now, but less "Iran closing the Strait of Hormuz" and more "we literally can't get enough out of the ground to sustain economic growth at the rate we used to in the past." In a sane economy, we would simply grow less, and use the period of stagnation to reorient our society away from growth toward other optimizations like working less, having a better distribution of wealth, etc. Ya know, those good old humanistic capitalist ideals that I support on this blog.
But...ideological capitalism is like a mental illness. It thinks infinite growth on a finite planet is possible, and keeps trying to push boundaries, even though the boundaries are very clearly pushing back with obvious price signals suggesting that this isn't sustainable. This is the crisis we face now, as we seem to be expecting a new generation of consoles soon despite the hardware that powers a PS5 or Xbox Series X being relatively expensive, and actually getting more expensive. Normally during a console's lifespan, price goes DOWN. A console releases at, say, $500, it goes down to like $250 or even less by the time it reaches the end of its lifespan. These days the opposite is happening. The PS5 is going UP to $650. The 10 year old switch 1 is going UP to $330. The Xbox Series X has already gone UP to around $600-650 too. And then there's talk of them releasing new consoles NEXT YEAR.
Honestly, with RAMpocalypse causing hardware prices to go wild, and with it spiraling out to affect GPUs, SSDs, etc., I don't even wanna HEAR about a next gen console next year. There is debate over release, some suggest we're still on for 2027, although some suggest a later 2028-2030 time window to allow this current crisis to blow over, which I think is wise. I mean, with tech advancing so slowly, and with it being so expensive, I don't think think it's economically realistic to release a next gen console any time soon. Because let's face it. Let's discuss what, barring RAMpocalypse, the prices should be for a console.
Nintendo
Nintendo already released their next gen console, the switch 2, at $450. I consider this eyewatering given Nintendo is the "cheap" option. I mean, historically, they've charged $200-300, even well into the modern era. And while you get worse hardware, that's to be expected. People who buy Nintendo should know what they get: an underpowered console that's cheap, has great first party support, but poor third party support due to the specs disparity with the other consoles. I mean, if we go by inflation calculator, here are some suggested price points:
Gamecube- $200 ($373)
GBA- $100 ($186)
DS- $150 ($262)
Wii- $250 ($409)
3DS- $170 (going by discount since it sold poorly at $250) ($250)
Wii U- $300 (once again going by discount) ($431)
Switch- $300 ($404)
Obviously, I'd prefer to keep the price lower, but honestly, it looks like if you go handheld, the highest acceptable price is around $250, and for a console, around $400. At $450, the switch 2 is a little overpriced. I'd honestly prefer to keep it lower, especially given it IS a handheld more or less, albeit a clunky one. Speaking of which a huge criticism I have of the switch 2 is that it is basically like both a weak and underpowered console AND a big, bulky, overpriced handheld. It's trying to do both, it does them poorly, and yeah, huge reason I'm not a fan. I'd rather see a $250 handheld, or a $400 console. Not a $450-500 hybrid. But I digress.
With that said, let's focus on the other consoles.
Playstation and Xbox
So let's go by the pricing over the past few generations.
Playstation 2- $300 ($575)
Xbox- $300 ($560)
Playstation 3- $600 (overpriced)- $982
Xbox 360- $400 ($676)
Playstation 4- $400 ($567)
Xbox One X- $500 ($708)
Playstation 5- $500 ($637)
Xbox One X- $500 ($637)
Xbox One S- $300 ($382)
All in all, even with inflation, the MAXIMUM we can realistically sustain is a $700 next gen console. That's the MAXIMUM suggested price. I'd probably be more inclined to go $600-650.
But...again, this is what CURRENT GEN HARDWARE still costs. And it's only gone up.
We're seeing talk of the equivalent steam machine being close to $900-1000, and that was before RAMpocalypse. And that thing has around PS5/Xbox Series X capabilities.
I mean, to build a similar PC, we're talking around $1k, even before RAMpocalypse, we were still talking around $700-800 or so.
How the everloving fudge are we gonna be seeing next gen consoles next year at an affordable price? And what are PC gamers like myself gonna have to pay to play on par with these machines? It literally took 2-3 years into the current gen's hardware cycle just for prices to normalize from COVID.
Honestly, again, if the market was sane, I'd just suggest putting it off a few years. Currently, to get an equivalent PS5/Xbox Series X level GPU, it costs around $300 by itself. That's what a 5050 costs right now. Alternatively you can buy a 6650 XT which is...quite literally, about what's in the PS5 exactly. And those are the cheapest GPUs worth buying in the current market. You can maybe get by with a cheaper 3050, but the 3050 quite frankly sucks and is worse than current gen consoles.
RAM, 16 GB is currently like $200 and 32 GB is like $400. This is why current gen is getting more expensive. Are we really gonna be pushing for an upgrade to what exists in the current market?
Thankfully, a console like CPU is cheap AF, i mean, something like a ryzen 5500 for like $100 probably does the job. But given the platform costs associated with it, that's where the money is.
And next gen is apparently supposed to use like a 12 core X3D CPU so i'm imagining like a 9900 X3D or something, something most PC gamers dont have. The GPU is expected to be 3x the PS5's, so...let's go 3x a 6650 XT. We're talking something like a 5080 or 4090 here. That's a fricking $1k+ card by itself.
Again, is it just me, or is this BANANAS?!
Like wtf, how can we actually sustain a next gen console price wise? The current generation has 6 year old hardware, and the price has gone UP to what a next gen console should cost, not DOWN. 6 years into a console's lifespan, they should be practically giving these things away for $250, while being able to replicate a console 6-8x as powerful as the previous one's at the previous one's general MSRP. That's the pattern of growth we saw in the past.
But again, things aren't growing like in the past. We've hit a wall. We've hit "peak gaming" or "peak computing" or whatever you wanna call it. And these nutcases keep trying to push boundaries further. Oh, we need BETTER games, that require BETTER (more expensive hardware to run), are MORE EXPENSIVE to make, TAKE LONGER due to the complexity involved, and probably COST MORE too. And, because of the income disparity in this country, someone will pay it. This consumerist society of ours is falling apart at the seams. I mean, we call it the K shaped economy, but let's talk about what that means. It means the wealthy are doing very well, and everyone else isn't. And that's the problem. We used to have the middle class be the main consumers of these goods and services. Consoles would be the envy of every middle class household. But let's talk about what middle class was always like.
It meant having ONE of the two to four competitors' consoles. Maybe one handheld. And you'd get maybe 10-15 games over the lifespan of a console. That's what life was like for most of us gamers growing up. And then, in the late 2000s/early 2010s, stuff became increasingly affordable to some degree, but now it's getting more expensive in the 2020s, where we're regressing back to the 90s and earlier when gaming was a lot more exclusive and increasingly a more upper class thing. And yeah.
Anyway, I wanted to make this because I ran into the "but but inflation" morons again online, and wanted to actually explain my thoughts on it. As it stands, I really would rather see the current generation be extended a few more years. Maybe even to 2030, depending on how things go. We're NOT in a good state for a next gen console. Current gen hardware has NEVER gone down in price, and the next generation is inevitably just going to be more expensive outright.
I think...in the current environment, the next generation should cost around as much as what the current gen does NOW. So...we're talking $650ish for a PS6 or Xbox 5, and I think the switch 2 should go down to around $400ish.
If we release a next gen console for $1000, it's LITERALLY gonna be "$599 US dollars" all over again. Those of us who are in our 30s and gamers will know what I'm referencing there (PS3, E3, 2006...the price flopped, to say the least, and it drove people to xbox instead). And yeah, with inflation, that's what it is. That $400 price point back then is closer to $600-700 now. And yeah. I say, no more than $700. And ideally, I'd like to see $600-650ish.
And keep in mind, I'm not a console gamer myself, but as a PC gamer who tends to upgrade my hardware generally once a console generation, and who generally likes to target at least that gen's hardware, if not a bit above it to account for optimization, I gotta be able to build affordably.
CPU wise....well CPUs arent bad, but a 12 core zen 6 X3D CPU is gonna be pushing it. That's probably $450 minimum given what the 9800X3D costs now. RAM....don't even go there, but hypothetically let's say I can reuse my 32 GB DDR5 for that. Okay.
GPU wise...again....that's the kicker. How the everloving fudge is a 40 Tflop GPU gonna be affordable to average consumers given a 12 Tflop PS5 tier GPU STILL costs $300? I mean, this is just unworkable. Even before RAMpocalypse, $300 was like....a 5060 which is 50% more performance. Maybe for $400 you could get a 9060 XT with 16 GB RAM. But yeah. Even that's kinda pushing boundaries on price.
Honestly, I say, let it ride. Current gen is fine. Let it ride until 2030ish. We used to release consoles every 4-5 years. Now even 7 is seeming too short. I welcome a 10 year console standard. It's the only way we can account for the market as it is without just being like "lol F middle class consumers, let's release something only rich people can buy."