So...someone on the one forum I sometimes make topics about tried asking this doozy tonight:
For those of you blaming the Democrats for why Trump won the last election, do you realize that you're saying that they're the ones responsible for why the Trump regime is doing all of these horrific thing?
Okay, seriously, as a "Bernie or Buster", let me just say this, from the bottom of my heart, go screw yourself.
Seriously. "Do YoU rEaLiZe YoU'rE aCtUAlLy BlAmInG tHe DeMoCrAtS fOr TrUmP?!?!?!"
Yeah. I do realize it. And I think that. Once again, screw you.
Here's the thing. YOU PEOPLE have had the gall since like 2015 or so, to say that if we weren't with YOU and YOUR CRAPPY CANDIDATES, that we were the ones electing Trump. Even if we simply refused to support either candidate on principle. Seriously, you guys blame ME for Trump ALL THE FRICKING TIME. And you know what? I deny responsibility for it. Because at the end of the day, parties and candidates aren't entitled to votes, they have to earn them, and democrats didn't earn them.
But still, even 9 years later, some dem apologists are still salty at Bernie or Busters from 2016, and I cant mention I voted for stein anywhere without some self righteous craplib jerk getting all up in my face about it like YOU GAVE US TRUMP! So yeah, you can live with the insinuation that you gave yourselves Trump. because I've been warning you frickers for like TEN YEARS now and you don't listen, you never listen. You keep forcing the same braindead strategy and the say crappy candidates down our throats every election cycle and then telling us that WE GAVE YOU TRUMP if we don't comply. And I'm SICK OF IT!
And then any time we call YOU out, suddenly, it's that we cant do infighting because OMG WE HAVE TO STOP TRUMP! We can always have some hypothetical disagreement later, but we can't do it because OMG WE NEED TO STOP TRUMP RIGHT NOW. And you know what? When are we supposed to have these disagreements? You complain at us in election years that "THERE'S TOO MUCH AT STAKE" and we have to unify with you or else we get trump. And you know what? This time I gave that to you. I said, okay, fine, Trump is a fascist, so let's unite to keep him out. Not like the left had anything worth a crap going on in 2024 anyway. And the stakes did seem too high. So I voted for you, and you STILL lost. And to some extent, yes, I do blame you (the dems) for your braindead strategy in the first place.
In 2016, you guys LITERALLY elevated Trump. Clinton was a crap candidate. No one wanted her, outside of that 20% of the country that was ride or die on the current brand of dems and voted in the primary. Ya know, the low info voter types who are consistent, but dont pay much attention to the race other than the news, and go for the candidate they at least recognize the name of over the guy they never heard of. "Hillary Clinton? Yeah, everyone knows who Clinton is, Bernie Sanders? Never heard of him" Those kinds of people. But yeah, the dems used those guys to push Clinton, and Clinton won the primary.
And then we were told we HAD to vote for Clinton or else. And I even compared it to a hostage negotiation at the time and said that I dont negotiate with terrorists. you cant just bully me into voting for someone. You have to earn it. And you didn't. And you guys even kept pushing Trump as a more extreme candidate to make Clinton look good by comparison. Ya know, good old pied piper strategy. And then Trump won, because of YOUR INCOMPETENCE. Seriously, do you guys not realize how good of a shot we had in 2016 to just wreck the GOP on a generational level once and for all? The dems went into 2016 with a built in electoral advantage. At minimum, all they had to do was hold the blue wall. They couldn't really lose if they did that, unless the GOP ran the board on every other state possible. The dems had an insane polling advantage baked in, still riding high off of the Obama era and his map. The fact that the democrats blew it and lost to TRUMP of all people was really just...wow. Like, you need to be a special kind of incompetent to do that. But you did it. Because you decided to reheat 2008's leftovers, which were then reheated from the 1990s. No one wanted that crap any more. That era of politics was over. But "it was her turn" and you had push her on the American people, and a perfect storm of everything gave you a loss when by rights you should've won easily.
And then after 2016, you didn't learn. What did you do in 2020? bernie was running away with it so you organized a behind the scenes coup to back Biden and stop Bernie from "Trumping" the democratic party. You went all in with the same brand of centrism that no one actually likes, but this time succeeded with it simply because Trump sucks so bad and people wanted him out. To be fair, I thought Trump was a one hit wonder, but after seeing how close he came to winning DESPITE everything that had happened, that terrified me. He had energy like no other republican did, and he brought the party back from the brink. And I knew then and there that we were due for a future reckoning from these guys again, because I knew Biden would do like nothing and the people would be pissed at dems in 4 years ago.
And the Biden era was both better and worse than I predicted. On the one hand, he tried to do more than I thought, but on the bad side, the COVID recovery made us relive the Carter years and it looked like we were on the verge of a complete electoral tsunami. And yet, despite being 82 and not knowing how to put a sentence together, Joe Biden decided to run again. And the dems once again refused to have a competitive primary, even displacing Iowa and New Hampshire as the first states in order to push South Carolina. btw, the dems did that because they knew that the south would just vote in lockstep with Biden and it would crush any hope of a competitive primary.
And Biden...got the nomination. But....let's be real. The dems lived in lalaland. Biden had some delusions of grandeur about how popular he was and believed, despite the obvious evidence to the contrary, that he would win. AT BEST, I gave him like a 30% shot, and after debate gate, that went down to around 10%. We were cooked. It wasn't competitive. And to be fair, I was reluctant to get biden out since polling didnt show that another candidate would do better, but we were eventually forced to. And then Harris ran, and polling did recover.
However, let's face it, the centrists in the party decided to try to do a coup. The donors and the third way people wanted to use the opportunity to purge progressives from the party's ranks and while Biden pushing Harris as the replacement put an end to the party insiders choosing someone entirely different and even more bland and ineffectual, they still heavily influenced Harris and pushed her to the center. Made her not distance herself from Biden, who was historically unpopular. Made her run to the center economically and not offer any ideas worth a darn, and made her campaign with the cheneys, because we all know that's what Americans want, more freaking centrism.
And while I'm not sure if the dems could've won 2024 in any circumstance due to whatever deep hole they dug themselves in, they sure as fudge made as many unforced errors as possible to ensure their victory. I almost wonder if the democrats actually want to win. Sure, they do, but only if they get to force their crappy version of centrism on us that NO ONE FRICKING LIKES! And that's the problem. The party is controlled by this political class of consultants, insiders, and old fricks who have been there since like 1992, and they DONT WANNA GIVE UP POWER. And I'm fully convinced by this point that they WOULD rather continue losing to Trump than to give up their power to someone who can actually win.
And that is why I blame the democrats for EVERYTHING. Seriously. I'm not kidding when I say I'm channeling a decade of pent up rage at the democratic party by this point. Because I've put up with this crap for THREE ELECTION CYCLES and these MFers still won't learn. And now these guys have the gall, in 2025, to pull the "party unity" thing again and say how we're the mean ones for blaming them for giving us Trump, and how we shouldn't be divided because Trump is such a threat.
But if we dont have this discussion NOW, in 2025, right after the last election, and years before we even seriously talk 2028, when are we gonna have it? You guys dont seem to like having it when you're pushing some worthless moderate like Andy Beshear or Pete Buttigieg on us in the primaries. You DEFINITELY don't want it when we're running a general election campaign against JD Vance in 2028. So when are we gonna have it?
And that's the thing. These guys NEVER wanna have this discussion. They've been avoiding this discussion for a decade now, and are trying to hunker down, rebrand to this BS "abundance" liberalism which is just more neoliberal BS with a different name, push losers like fricking ELYSSA SLOTKIN on us, WHO NO ONE FRICKING LIKES, and who literally seems to be an ex republican who still thinks like an ex republican (compare that to ex republican me, who is now in the left flank of the democrats).
So yeah, I'm gonna be FRICKING HOSTILE to establishment craplibs (and yeah, I'm calling them that, literally got banned from the above forum because I call them that) who keep lecturing us about how now is not the time to fight. Yes, it is, and you know what? Not only do we need to fight Trump and his nonsense, we need to fight you guys as well. Because quite frankly, most of the people fighting Trump in any meaningful way are progressives like Bernie and AOC, I admit, Cory Booker and JB Pritzker are having their moments too. As is Tim Walz. But for the most part, the establishment dems of the democratic party, including my own PA representatives, are NOT fighting Trump effectively, and it's about time they start.
Quite frankly, fighting Trump and fighting the dems arent mutually exclusive goals. If anything, given its the progressive wing showing everyone else how it's done, and how the establishment wing of the party that is pushing this faux unity BS are the ones who seem to be the most useless people in doing so, yeah, fighting both are actually quite aligned with our goals.
Quite frankly, in 2028, it's make or break for the dems. Either they're gonna rise to the challenge of the times, or we're screwed for a generation to Trump. And YES, if the dems dont rise to the challenge, I AM going to blame the dems from now until the end of time for all that has happened. I cant blame the republicans for fighting for their interests and being successful. I mean, that's the thing. Like we have to fight the republicans. But fighting the republicans means a STRONG left, and nothing about the modern democratic party is strong. Quite frankly they seem more interest in fighting their own base and then rolling over to the GOP. And I for one am SICK OF IT.
So yeah, I AM saying that you're responsible for the GOP winning, and either you can be part of the solution, or you get get the heck out of the way, because if you get in the actual left's way, you're literally part of the problem. Sorry, not sorry. Deal with it. Especially after you screamed at me for the past decade about helping elect Trump because I refused to support you insufferable jerks in the first place.
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