So, Elon is now responding to the criticism against him with literal nazi jokes, and I figured since this crap isn't going away, it's good to address the controversy more directly. This is gonna be more Q&A style than anything.
Was Musk's gesture a Nazi salute?
Yes, it basically was. Here is the salute posted along side literal Nazis giving the same salute. Corporate needs you to find the difference between the two pictures. They're the same picture.
Does this mean Musk is a nazi?
While it was possible he was joking or being ironic, he also has come out in support of the AFD, which is basically a nazi or at the very least nazi lite party. He also has ties to apartheid south africa from when that was a thing.
So yeah, given that the salute is just the topping on the cake and his statements have been controversial for a while, let's just say that if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, and gives certain salutes like a duck, that he's a duck. He is at the very least doing a bad cosplay of a duck, which is concerning in and of itself given how touchy that subject is.
NOOOO BUT IT WAS JUST A ROMAN SALUTE!
First of all, you realize nazis used a lot of roman aesthetics in building their "reich" right? Vaush talks excessively about this whenever I watch him, going on long diatribes about how fascists have no actual artistic mind of their own and just coopt the aesthetics of others. They love the roman stuff because it makes them feel strong and powerful.
Second, okay, well....I've heard some people say it's the same kind of salute that Benito Mussolini gave back in the 1930s...um...you realize you're literally not helping your case, right? Mussolini was a fascist, and he was literally aligned with Hitler. So you're literally not helping your case at all.
NOOO BUT HE WAS JUST SAYING MY HEART GOES OUT TO YOU!
Okay, some people are saying that maybe he got a little carried away. Okay. Maybe he did. WHY DID HE DO IT AGAIN? WHY IS HE MAKING JOKES ABOUT IT? WHY DOES HE SUPPORT THE AFD WHO ARE BASICALLY LITERAL NAZIS? Like, eventually you gotta stop indulging this guy's behavior or you start sounding like this. When someone shows them who they are, believe them.
NOOOO HES JUST AUTISTIC AND A LITTLE ECCENTRIC!
So...as an autistic person who has been hearing this BS a lot, I'm just gonna say, STOP ASSOCIATING US WITH THIS GUY! Okay, actual autistic people? Not saying Elon isn't one, I'll get to why he is why he is in a minute, but okay, actual autistic people who aren't billionaires? WE DONT ACT LIKE THAT! Many of us are so scared of being interpreted the wrong way and construed that we try to overcorrect and go out of our way and NOT do that. And if Elon realized what he did and was like "oops, sorry, got a little out of hand with the gesture there, i didn't mean what it looks like", i could be like okay. But let's face it. The dude is from the upper class of apartheid of south africa, ya know, the one that benefitted from its policies. He is playing footsie with the AFD. He's in with the Trump administration, who, as I stated, basically is a fascist lite, even if he's a little boorish and doesnt have the thought out ideology of an actual fascist, but is nevertheless about 75% compliant with the definition and should be treated as such. He's doing the salute. He's joking about the salute. He's a nazi. The dude could grow a short mustache, put on the uniform, do a seig heil and start screaming racist things in german and people would still act like he's not a nazi somehow and that it's all "ironic." No, it's not. This is scary. On day on of the trump administration, they're outing themselves as what they are. BELIEVE THEM.
Here's the real problem with elon. It's the same problem with trump too. He's a rich ###hole who has never been told no in his life, and doesn't know how to take no. As such, he's never developed the boundaries that a normal person would, including high functioning autistic individuals like himself, and because there is no power structure to ever hold him accountable, because quite frankly, when you're that rich, you ARE the power structure, he just does whatever he feels like. He has no boundaries.
So why do you crap on the reddit mods doing their cancel X thing? Aren't you supporting elon by doing that?
No. If anything, and this is what people need to understand, I'm holding yet another petty tyrant accountable here. Here's the thing. The SJW reddit mods who think this stuff up and shove it down our throats, they're made of the same petty tyrannical cloth as these rich people. They get a little power, and then they start tripping and abusing it for their own stupid virtue signalling and vanity projects.
It's one thing to say, I refuse to use twitter because he's a nazi. it's another thing, to force your little boycott on everyone else, and to ban those who disagree with you (since some mods are explicitly doing that).
As a liberal, one who believes in freedom of speech, the rule of law, what have you, Elon does have a right to his opinion, as do you. And I don't really like any incursion into free speech in the name of some weird mob mentality or to appease some petty power tripping mod. Quite frankly, i think reddit mods are just as pathetic as elon and trump are. And cut from the same cloth, they might bat for the other side technically, but as we know from WWII, is the answer to nazism really like...communism, or even SJWism? No it's not. Stalin is no better than Hitler. I will oppose any weirdo power trips no matter what side they come from. That's how you actually oppose this stuff and stand up for freedom.
So what should be done about Elon?
Well to some extent, what can we do? Either way, I would support a voluntary exodus from twitter/X. We've seen some people move from X to bluesky since the election in order to accomplish this and stick it to elon, and quite frankly, given elon's poor management of the site, I think it's a good move even without the nazi stuff. For the record, I'm not a fan of twitter. I made an account there in like 2010 but never used it because what's the point? IMO any platform with a 280 character limit or whatever it is isn't one for serious discourse.
I just dont like weirdo petty reddit tyrants forcing their stupid little virtue signals on us and thinking the answer to this is to try to force everyone to stop using twitter because they have a statement to make. You're free to not use twitter, again, I actually encourage the movement on a voluntary level. I just dont like people forcing it and then power tripping banning anyone who doesn't think their way. Quite frankly those kinds of people are liabilities to the left and make us all look bad. Did these guys get the memo that their "wokeness" is unpopular? Maybe if they shut the heck up, we wouldn't have just elected fascists to public office in the first place (nah, inflation was the real reason, but to be fair, this woke crap ain't popular either).
Like...that's the thing. To some extent, the trump phenomenon comes as a backlash to wokeness. It actually does. It's that whole "own the libs" thing. The trevor's axiom from south park thing. The whole people hate these idiots on the left so much they're enabling fascists as a way to retaliate thing. And that's why we're losing the culture war. We didn't lose it during the obama years. because the left was sane during the obama years. No one likes this "woke" zeitgeist except for these petty internet powermods who really need to touch grass (yes, I know its january just....go touch snow instead, yes, florida man, that means you too).
Conclusion
There isn't much of a point to this post, I just wanna point out that yes, Elon Musk is a nazi, and if you actively support him, uh...you might wanna reconsider that. Unfortunately, there isn't a lot we can do about it right now. We just unleashed evil upon this earth for the next 4 years. All we can really do is try to plot a comeback in 2028. Use the power we have to resist the trump administration in the next 2 years, including pulling out all of the stops with obstructionism like they do to us, try to win seats in 2026 to increase our power to resist him, and then in 2028, kick him out of office for good.
Really. People dont like that answer, but that's all we can do. We can do our virtue signals. Like, for example, my profile pic on my sites is bernie's picture from the inauguration. I was serious. In a world of trumps, be a bernie. I just dont think that these virtue signals should involve censorship, eroding our rights further, or empowering petty tyrant reddit mods looking to power trip. You can oppose trump/musk, and also think this boycott is stupid. It's called nuance, and people should try it some time.
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