Friday, January 17, 2025

The free palestine crowd is still insufferable

 OK, so there's been talk of a cease fire. I don't know if it's actually going through since reports keep going back and forth on that, but between this, and the news that harris "could've won" (no, she wouldn't have) if she had taken a different stance on gaza, but yeah the whole thing is coming back into focus again and the left won't shut the heck up about it.

Like, let's be real. I don't like what Netanyahu is doing. I do believe he's a war criminal, and I believe that the free palestine kiddies have a point, even if I disagree with them on tone. But that said, my god, that tone. Like, whenever these guys get self righteous over it again, I'm just like shut up. Like they screamed at Anthony Blinken. Idk why people like this stuff. Just weirdos screaming at elected officials "WAR CRIMINAL! YOURE A WAR CRIMINAL!" Like...could you like...shut up already? 

And of course I'm looking for decent memes tonight for my friends and I get a bunch of SEE WE WERE RIGHT AFTER ALL on the Harris thing. Like...I did the numbers...I don't see any situation where the number of voters lost was enough to flip the election. At least not with this issue alone. It could've shifting things maybe a point or so, but we lost by 1.7, so...yeah.

And honestly, most of these people are in safe states. The swing states were more concerned over inflation. It is surprising that this issue did impact things as much as they did. It was literally the second most salient issue among nonvoters for Harris, behind inflation. But yeah. 

It's just like...oh my god. Can you PLEASE shut up?

Ya know, I had someone say something else on a similar issue lately that really resonates here. Anti woke right wingers are like, yeah maybe people shouldnt have rights. Anti woke lefties are like...okay I largely agree with you, but can you tone it down by like..A LOT? You're dialing things up to 11 and you need to be at like a 6. Like, really, when people from the left, like myself, criticize the woke, or even the free palestine people, there's a lot of "yeah I kinda agree with you, i kinda see where you're coming from, but could you like NOT act like this? You're alienating the normies. 

And that's kinda how I feel. I do think, in retrospect, that shifting away from israel was a strategy that would've been a net gain from democrats, I was unsure of that during the election, but looking at data now, it's like yeah, +35% if we did among nonvoters, -10% from the people who think we werent pro israel enough. So 25% more votes from nonvoters. Which amounts to like 1.5 million, which is how I got a 1.1% shift. We needed 1.7 to win, but yeah. It would close the gap. 

Like I wanna make that clear. At this point, yes, I think distancing us from Israel IS a good move. It should've been done a year ago in retrospect (and i do own my stance of going along with it at the time), but based on how the situation has evolved, yeah, the war was a disaster, and defending Israel has been an electoral AND a moral loser for us. Like, I dont support Israel's actions. My stance was always that if collateral damage is necessary to win, then so be it. But at this point, it's just mindless slaughter and a lot of these guys are getting their ethics from the book of Joshua...LITERALLY. Like. I wanna be honest, one of the reasons I left Christianity was because I didn't like how God just was like "yeah the best solution is to kill all of these people." I can see flawed humans influenced by the times being like "yeah this is the best WE can do", but God could like, idk, teleport them to another piece of land and solve the problem. Ya know?

And in the 21st century, we're not supposed to like...do...that...any more. The holocaust kinda made us have this "never again" mentality. And even though I'm not super in support of the US being the world police on the subject, yeah I do think not enabling other countries to act like that is kind of a good basis for policy, ya know? 

So again, I wanna make it clear, yeah, the free palestine people have a point. I just hate the hyper fixation, and I think the shrill, self righteous attitude these guys have is just...alienating. Like, again, better ways of getting our point across than screaming WAR CRIMINAL, WAR CRIMINAL. Ya know...like not voting. An even though I don't think that the amount of nonvoters was likely high enough to flip the election, the fact that it was arguably the #2 issue that cost Harris the election behind inflation sends a message nevertheless. Like, I said it early on, but that's how you fricking dissent the right way. You make your voice known at the ballot box. And I'm gonna admit I dont think this issue is important enough to "not vote" over in the grand scheme of things. Out of the hundreds of issues, hyperfixating on this one just baffles me, but it is what it is. People made their voices heard, and they had a right to do it. Now the democrats must respond to what voters want, if they wanna win again in the future.

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