Saturday, April 5, 2025

So...discussing why MAGA is cheering this stuff on...

 So....I watched an Asmongold clip on why a lot of young men are supporting the tariffs, and idk, he actually made sense in a way. Before I go further, yes yes, I know asmongold is a maga chud, especially on social issues, but on economics, sometimes we strangely align. He has come out as anti work and pro UBI for example, as such, as cringey as his views often are, he's one of the more right wing voices I go to if I want to see what the right things. Watching him cheer on vance and his nonsense is cringey, but then once in a great while, he'll have a clip like this.

 Okay...so....here's the thing. Asmongold frames it this way. A lot of young men are supporting MAGA and tariffs and stuff because they have no investment in the system. The economic system has failed them. When they see people freaking out over 401ks, they cheer it on. They're like "yeah F your 401k, now you'll feel the pain I've felt my whole life with this crap."

I...kinda respect this argument in a way. Now, I dont think what MAGA is doing is useful, or smart in any way, I dont endorse this tactic, but their attitude is one of desperation, they're so fed up with this system that doesnt serve them that they see this as their way of "burning it all down." Stock market is a bunch of rich people, they dont have a retirement fund...so F it. And ya know what? Im not super sympathetic about the stock market either. Like, with these tariffs, I'm worried more about like, high consumer prices, or creating tons of unemployment as the glorious "job creators" lay people off. But as far as the stock market itself, it's like...meh, let it burn. Rich people losing money, oh noes. 

Ya know? It kinda is the whole "the neglected child will burn down the whole village to stay warm" mentality. A lot of young people realize this system is crap and they're like, F it, burn it down. Again, in 2016, I was kinda willing to gamble with a third party vote in this way. I thought one term of trump would shift the country toward a progressive political revolution. The GOP would be destroyed from their internal contradictions and the dems would learn from 2016 and move left. But then MAGA just got stronger and like a cancer metastasized into the fascist authoritarian movement that it is now. And this time around, Trump is FAR more dangerous. The GOP is a lot more authoritarian, a lot less respectful of checks and balances, and trump has ZERO guardrails. NONE. The courts mostly back him, congress backs him, he can do whatever he want and no one will hold him accountable, and the GOP seems poised to destroy democracy itself, or at least erode it that it might take a generation to come back from this. As such, I cant cheer on trump. Because this is BAD.

But, I do understand the energy. This is the energy that drove germany to become nazi in the 1930s. And it might feel good for a time, until it gets so out of hand it kills millions of people and turns the country into a genocidal dictatorship. We were here before, in the 1930s, and the democrats had to design a system that stopped us from going that way. It led to the new deal. And while I do have some issues with the new deal, like the left wing work fetishism that came out of that ideology, it actually did save capitalism, until the right rolled it back.

And that's one thing that these guys dont understand, okay, so I get the anger...you guys realize trump is...exactly the kinds of people screwing you in the first place, right? His economics is more trickle down. He's making the rich richer and screwing everyone else. The people who are hurt by maga arent the ultra wealthy, they'll be fine. it's US. We're gonna lose our jobs, lose our safety nets, goods will be more expensive. We are gonna suffer. The rich won't. I mean they might take a hit, but they'll come back. If anything some think trump is tanking the market so his rich buddies can buy a lot of cheap stock and make out like bandits as the economy recovers. So really, what is this solving? other than just nuking the economy for everyone else who suffers already too? 

Really. This ins't helpful. I get the anger, I get the frustration. But this helps NO ONE who needs help. It just screws over everyone. And even worse, most people wont understand this message that youre sending. Because most maga people do genuinely not understand economics, and are christian fundamentalist fascists. And actually do support the ideas out of stupidity. Even if youre supporting the stuff out of "burn it down." No one is gonna understand that, and no ones lives who should improve, will improve from these policies. We're just driving the country into fascism and a depression. Like, even I backed off and supported harris this time. Because I knew a second trump term would be WAY worse than his first. And it IS worse. It's worse than even I expected, and I knew it was gonna be bad. So...hope you're happy, but this ain't gonna help anyone. 

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