Tuesday, November 25, 2025

Discussing Nick Fuentes "compromise"

 So, Nick Fuentes has offered a compromise between the right and the left, arguing if we give up on immigration and social issues, they'll give up on economics and create a grand alliance that wins over "90%" of voters. This is a tempting compromise for me on paper, I've offered similar compromises from the left in the past. But...I'm going to have to decline here. 

 Why? Well...have you actually SEEN Nick Fuentes lately? Have you seen MAGA lately on immigration? Nick Fuentes is a NAZI, and the Trump administration has immigration policies reminiscent of 1930s era Nazi Germany, complete with LITERAL CONCENTRATION CAMPS! No. I'm not interested in compromising with people who are THAT far gone. Especially because we've BEEN compromising. Biden compromised to the center on immigration. His 2024 initiative was even center right. He gave them almost everything they wanted. We're not "open borders", F no. I mean, yeah those nuts exist on the radical woke left, but they're not a majority, even among democrats. They're just a bunch of weirdos who are on the wrong side of like an 85-15 issue. No one takes them seriously, not even us. The mainstream of the democratic party is pro border control, and recognizes that we need to have borders to have a nation. 

But...none of that was good enough for these guys even a year ago, and now, we're seeing what they're really about. These guys are pushing great replacement theory. They're literally going as heavy handed as they are because they ARE white nationalists, who want the US to be a white ethnostate. And they just wanna deport and get rid of all the brown people. Which is why we're seeing such heavy handed policies under the Trump administration. Literal concentration camps. People like Laura Loomer making jokes about the alligators in florida having 65 million meals, referencing the latino population in this country. These guys are sick freaks. Let's be honest. They're PSYCHO.

And that's the future of the republican party. Again, there's no good guys in the MAGA civil war, and I dont even WANNA take a side. The establishment sucks and is corrupt and I'm SOMEWHAT sympathetic to the populist arguments against that segment of the right, even as a leftie, but have you SEEN these guys? They're like an angry and unruly mob. They are literally driving us to fascism, and while Trump is only like a proto fascist by my own estimation, as the guy is too boorish to have the sophisticated ideology to make him an out and out fascist...people like Fuentes have that sophistication. As such, I don't wanna touch those guys with a ten foot pole. I really don't. I want NOTHING to do with that wing of the republican party. 

Again, I can compromise on immigration. I myself am a centrist on it and am considered pretty right wing by democratic standards. But push comes to shove, I care about human rights, and civil rights. I care about the constitution, due process, and rule of law. There's nothing wrong with deporting illegal immigrants, but we must do it HUMANELY and LEGALLY, which Trump is not doing. 

Hell, I'm starting to think that moving right on immigration isn't getting us anything. It didn't get us anything when Biden did it last year. Apparently the Danish social democratic party that has been lambasted by the left for its explicitly anti immigrant stances ain't doing well either. This crap isn't getting us any closer to universal healthcare, or free college, or UBI. So really, why should we compromise? If this stuff did get us electoral success, I would consider it, assuming we kept it within certain boundaries of humanity and legality (like Biden did), but again, they just beat us over the head and scream that we're for open borders anyway, and then people believe them, so what is this doing us?

And that's the thing. The immigration crisis that helped propel Trump to the white house the second time was largely fabricated. There was no real crisis. And yes, there were a lot of border crossings, those crossings were documented because border control stopped those people and sent them packing. People weren't flooding into our country in record numbers, they weren't contributing to the cost of living crisis, and one can go back and and compare the number of illegal immigrants in this article to my earliest basic income plans (I keep track so I can exclude those people from getting UBI) and notice that the numbers cited in the above BBC article are no different, because the actual number has been stagnant for years now. 

Like, again, where is this weird idea that we're pro open borders coming from? WE'RE NOT! 

So...when Fuentes comes in here with his grand compromise, he can screw off for all I care. This is lucy with the football. We've been compromising all along but it hasn't been enough for these people because these people are outright fascists. There is no compromise with them. And honestly? Im not even sure that they would be for economically progressive ideas if we let them be. They dont have the worldview for that. Because again, there's a lot more happening under the Trump administration than just nazi like immigration policies. They got a coalition full of white nationalists, christian nationalist. Nick Fuentes himself was the "your body my choice" guy calling for the end of abortion and women's rights. The guy himself calls for a catholic dictatorship. He likes Hitler, he likes Stalin. He's a whack. There's no compromising with this guy. 

Honestly? If anything, people like Nick Fuentes are making me more sympathetic to the woke people! And I hate those guys. Because they've long since opposed my economically progressive inclinations and insisted on forcing us into running elections based mainly on these cringey socially leftist positions that are unpopular with the country. And as you guys know, who have been following this blog since 2016, I've been an opponent of that all along. And I would have happily made this compromise of "giving up" on immigration for advancing my social policies. Because 10 years ago, giving up on immigration didn't mean going full fascist. The alt right was new back then, and it was unclear how fricking insane they were. And I thought if we gave some compromises on issues back then, we could have that coalition Fuentes speaks of now. I didnt want the woke people getting control of the narrative because they WOULD kill the left electorally, and inflame the right. 

But...2016 happened. And 9 years out of it, the end result is clear. The cat is out of the bag. The right has morphed into fascists, the left are woke, but starting to come out of it,  but right now, we kinda need that woke ethos to push back against the fascists. Because again, when I call these guys fascists, I mean it LITERALLY. I cited my own article above, so let's post the MW definition again:

a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual, that is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition

  Sounds like an accurate representation of Nick Fuentes' ideology to me. 

 There will be no compromise with those people. They can't be trusted. If you do it they'll stab you in the back, just like they always do. Populist, progressive, anti establishment left and the fascists have little in common. That is my answer.  

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