Sunday, March 27, 2022

Discussing more gatekeeping from r/antiwork

 This time they have a topic called "if you're 'anti-woke', you're anti worker", with the following quotation:

Trans rights are workers' rights.

Women's rights are workers' rights.

BIPOC rights are workers' rights.

Social justice is justice for workers.

 Uh....this is a load of crap. The reason I take shots at the "woke" crowd is more often than not they DON'T want universal workers' rights and other stuff. They're mostly too focused on their own stuff. I can't tell you how many times as a white male I'm that I need to check my privilege and essentially give up my interests to go along with the group. I'm sorry, but on the modern left, social issues are weaponized against economics.And honestly? The whole reason I'm so anti woke these days is because of this. Woke people don't WANT solutions that help ALL of us. They want solutions that help their little specific groups at the expense of other groups. They aren't pushing for UBI, for example. They push for divisive crap like affirmative action, or reparations and stuff.

That's not to say that woke stuff can't interact with worker's rights in a positive way. And when it does, of course, i support that stuff. I'm not a bigot, and I do understand systemic injustice. But, let's be honest, the purpose of this thread being made seems obnoxiously self serving, and anyone who speaks out against it would probably be banned on that sub because of how woke and inclusive most left wing spheres are these days. 

Honestly, you can be pro worker while being against or critical of woke politics. How? By putting the needs of the many above the needs of the few. Pushing for policies that help everyone, and not getting bogged down in sectarian issues that help some at the expense of others. A lot of woke politics are a zero sum game. If you insist on racial quotas for example, you're displacing other workers. And then when those people point that out, they're told to "check their privilege". The fact is given how the system works, for everyone to be equally rich, we also need to be equally poor, and I'd rather focus on ensuring no one is poor than ensuring the right amount of certain people are poor. 

So, let's face it. Wokeness has this weird toxic positivity around it, and the worst part people can't point out the obvious without being "cancelled" for it. hence why I'm expressing my thought here rather than there. There are some places where the two politics intersect, but there's also places where they don't, and they're mutually exclusive. It's perfectly fine to support equal pay laws, or anti discrimination laws for example. But let's be honest. Pro workers politics are pro worker politics. Woke politics are woke politics. And while there is some overlap SOMETIMES, there's also a lot of places where this stuff DOESN'T overlap, or it even conflicts. Again, this whole concept is just self serving virtue signalling BS. 
 
I'm really getting tired of r/antiwork's gatekeeping at times. That's not to say that there needs to be SOME gatekeeping, but it should be about ensuring people are being anti work. Not this "mirror mirror on the wall who is the most leftist of them all" crap they're doing recently. Being leftist doesn't mean you're anti work. All the purity tests are about whether you're a "leftist" and believe the right things ideologically on things that aren't about being anti work. I've seen leftists pushing LITERAL JOBS PROGRAMS while arguing against anti work sentiment gatekeep me on there. And now the woke crap. it's stupid. Leftists, you don't own anti work as a concept. I'm willing to share it with leftists as anti work does have some anti establishment and even anti capitalist currents at times. But you don't own it. So let's not conflate topics marginally associated with the core topic at hand, with said core topic.

Signed, your economically "center left" (by your standards) and socially moderate ally.

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