So I watched a Breaking points segment with Krystal and Saagar, about the Trump administration raising the age of enlistment, and Saagar came out in favor of the draft. And...uh...yeah...no dawg. I don't care what your moral justification is, I don't care if you're otherwise on "my side", screw anyone who is for the draft.
It's bad enough to think Trump and his ilk might be stupid enough to start forcing people into the armed services for this war, but when people do it for leftie/anti war reasons, it's just as bad. Some lefties and anti war folks like the idea because it gives everyone skin in the game and it makes people less likely to be pro war, rather some being pro war and externalizing that onto the economically underprivileged or whatever. Removing the draft in 1973 was moral progress. I can understand, in times of great emergency and need, why some might be pro draft. But...unless we face an existential threat to the country, NO, NO DRAFT, PERIOD.
Anti war leftists and the like have this idea that if people had to go, they would be more likely to be anti war. But when in history has that EVER worked? Did it work in the civil war? No, if anything, Lincoln sent in the troops to put down riots over it. In WWI, Wilson locked people up over it. In Vietnam, the war dragged on for a solid decade even with people having to go. Even when the people voted against the war in practice, like Nixon being against it in 1968, he still took like 7 years to get out. Hell he wasn't even in office any more when we finally pulled out, Ford was.
And honestly? I dont think it would change anything. These MAGA people are dumb enough they'd die for this stuff. And anyone with half a brain is already against the war. So this is just some super self righteous sentiment.
But beyond that, I find the draft to be inherently immoral. No one should be forced to die in wars. Wars are state sanctioned violence, and using violence to coerce people to participate is immoral. War is generally immoral unless defensive for the most part IMO, and and coercing participation is doubly immoral IMO, as youre forcing your own people to die for some cause they want nothing to do with and might not even believe in.
And let's face it while most people see draftees as being 18-25, they can be as high as 44 in the US in theory, so I still have skin in the game here. And as someone who had skin in the game with Iraq and Afghanistan too as I WAS in that 18-25 age range back then in the 2000s, uh....if you were for the draft, F you. Like...there was this democrat named Charlie Rangel who was pro draft back then. often for the same reasons. Blah blah blah underprivileged, blah blah blah everyone should have skin in the game.
NO! And anyone who tries to force us into the draft gets my ire. I was fundamentally opposed to dems back then because I was told they wanted to draft people because of that guy. So if this is the dem answer to this war, rather than simply opposing the war, no, F them too.
And let's face it, on the economic coercion argument, who is anti economic coercion here? My entire ideology is about opposing economic coercion. I want everyone to have a UBI, I want them to have a college education. A lack of those things are what entice a lot of people to enlist. And honestly, it always makes me laugh when people who dont normally point out that our economic system is inherently coercive kind of admit the fact in the edge cases that suit them, like prostitution sometimes being tied to sex trafficking, or people enlisting in the military "voluntarily" due to their economically underprivileged position. So dont even try that crap with me. Because I'll go in the opposite direction. Yes, coercion is bad, yes it's a problem, I have my own solutions to it. Let's not coerce people into a war they don't wanna fight.
Honestly, if Trump can't get the troops for it, maybe we shouldn't fight it. That's my honest opinion. And unless we or our close allies are under direct attack, I'm generally not gonna support war. Period. The Iran war is an unjust war. There's no valid reason for being there. I want nothing to do with it, and if MAGA wants it so bad, let them enlist and die for their clown of a leader. That's my honest opinion.
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