*sigh*, so, there's yet ANOTHER allegation against Till now. I swear the media is sitting on these things and dripping them out every few days for maximum damage and controversy. They seem to align with the days he's on tour, and currently Rammstein is doing their last batches of concerts for the year right now in Belgium.
As you can tell, I'm cynical, but to be blunt, the media coverage on this is as abhorrent as such on an American presidential election cycle. Meaning the media is biased, only reports on what they want to report on, and frames things in ways to present the narrative they wish to present. And they seem to REALLY have it out for till. To the point that I've become increasingly skeptical of new allegations, because they keep turning out to be nothing.
And this one SOUNDS real damning, but in context, once again, it isn't.
Let's delve in. This time, he's accused of having sex with a 15 year old. Yikes. That's not good. That's like pedo crap, if true. I mean, here in America, you would get arrested and be forced to register as a sex offender for that. And you would need to "buck dich" in the shower if you served time.
Except...as it turns out, the legal age of consent in germany is....14. And what Till did (if he did it, I'm not even sure what to believe any more with this stuff), it's not a crime. So why is it being discussed?
Moral outrage, that's why. Because despite their creepily low age of consent over in Germany, even a lot of more sensible people (like me) or are to be like "ew, that's gross." Because I live in a country where the age of consent is 18. And sex between adults and minors under 18 is VERY frowned upon.
But, let's be real here. For most of history, this was normal. It wasn't uncommon in the past for 40 year olds to marry like 12 year olds. And heck, one prophet of a major world religion even married a 6 year old, to which the apologists argue "well ackshully they didnt have sex until 9" (as if that's much better).
Age of consent is actually a quite modern concept. And it's a good one, I'm not defending unethical sexual relations here. Despite ripping on feminists about so called "power imbalances", my argument against that has been "but yes, actual relationships with actual power imbalances are illegal, as all partners are of adult legal age". And 18 is the generally accepted age in my neck of the woods.
Of course, it differs, and in a lot of other fairly advanced countries, 14 or 16 is fairly common. And technically, in the eyes of the law of Germany, Till broke no laws. So why point this out? Again, moral outrage. To what end? And there isn't really an end, other than cancel culture, breeding outrage, and trying him in the court of social media, public opinion, and mob justice, in the absence of actual legal recourse.
But as you guys know, I'm a legal guy. I believe in the rule of law, and only holding people accountable if they broke it. And say morality doesn't align with legality here. What's the solution? Well, there are two. 1) Mind your own fricking business, or 2) CHANGE THE LAWS.
#1 is more apt for situations where 2 doesn't make sense. Not all things that are considered immoral or unethical should be illegal. Morality often varies from person to person and unless the behavior is so egregious that it violates some commonly held morality based in actual consequences and harm, I would argue that behavior should be legal. People have issues with abortion. Well, the solution is don't have one. Some people have issues with eating meat. Then don't. Some people have issues with tattoos, or homosexuality, or alcohol, or pot, or sex, and again, unless there's an overriding societal concern based in some common morality with actual harm involved, I fail to see why this of anyone's concern.
But let's say that Germany's age of consent laws are a wee to lax. I would actually argue that. As would many others. There can actually be some predatory behavior between adults and teenagers here and we could argue that children should be better protected. Well, what's the solution? Raise the age.
Okay, so what should the age be? I mean, I'm not gonna lie, the line where legality and illegality should exist is a bit blurred. And you could argue different things. Germany's laws seem lax, focusing on protecting prepubescent children, but not being as strict among teenagers. America's laws are stricter, sometimes too strict, as I've heard of cases where 18 year olds go to jail for having sex with 17 year olds. America actually has a lot of weird backwards laws on sex at times (see: sodomy laws) that while not enforced, are technically on the books and sometimes applied unfairly. So, we do want some flexiblity there.
We want a law that primarily protects much older partners from seeking younger partners below a certain age, while being flexible enough to not penalize morally permissible behavior in the grey areas.
On the protection front, I think 18 is fine, although I'd just shift it to another country's context as "age of adulthood", which could probably range from 15-18 depending on the country.
I know some feminists screaming about creepiness and power imbalances would probably want the age late, like 25 or 30, but i think that's insane and overly restrictive. 18 is the age of legal adulthood, at least where i live. And it seems similar in Germany.
So, what do we do to avoid the whole "the person is close to my age but im going to jail because they're 16-17" scenario? Well, that's when you add a buffer zone. I would say for persons under 21, there should be a permissible 36 month age range exemption between the two partners. So if you're 20, you're good down to 17ish. 19, 16ish. 18, 15ish, etc. Obviously the 36 months means a MAX of three years, so in reality we're talking like 2 years and change, but that should cover most scenarios. Because I don't see under 21s having sex with someone more than 3 years younger generally. Why not just have a looser rule with no age buffer? Because we dont want 20 year olds with 13 year olds or 15 year olds with 9 year olds either. So yeah.
Basically, my solution for the age of consent would be 18, but with a 3 year buffer zone under 21. That way if you're 21, that buffer zone is 18, the age of consent. Boom, problem solved.
But seriously, imagine of all of these outraged feminists, instead of screaming about what a monster till is, they put their energy into saying "why is this legal? let's change the laws".
I admit, a lot of the time im glad that SJWs arent more savvy at making legal changes, some of their suggested ideas are flat out dumb at times (like a 25 year old age of consent, or some of their ideas on rape laws), but honestly, I do find an issue with the left in general is that a lot of the far leftist types would rather larp on the internet and virtue signal and talk about revolutions that will never come rather than actually trying to pursue legal action that would actually solve the problems.
If you have a problem with till lindemann having sex with 15 year olds in a country where the age of consent is 14, then yes, the obvious first step isn't to go after till lindemann, it's to change the laws. Because if till did do it he did nothing wrong in the eyes of the law, and until the law changes, this is a "mind your own business" scenario.
I'm really only interested in holding something against the guy if the behavior is actually illegal in the countries he's in at the time. If it's not, then i couldn't care less.
And Im not even saying he did it. The allegations are old, there's a he said she said dynamic with little to no evidence, and the media has a track record of not properly approaching the situation in the first place. But if he did, yeah, maybe change the age of consent laws. That might be a good idea. Because to me at least, a 14 year old age of consent IS kinda creepy.
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