Sunday, August 6, 2023

Took a feminism test, here are the results

 This is the test.

Results:

Traditionalism- 46%

Liberal feminism- 85%

Radical feminism- 30%

Marxist feminism- 51%

Cultural feminism- 28%

To discuss each type of feminism as portrayed:

Traditionalism

Traditionalism refers to illiberal strands of philosophy which seek to preserve what they see as the “natural” and “traditional” order of things. In the past, this standpoint was chiefly represented by early 20th century thinkers such as Julius Evola and Rene Guenon. After a hiatus following World War II, Traditionalism has resurfaced as a new type of “conservatism to the right of mainstream conservatism.” It is chiefly popular among younger voters who are skeptical of the liberal enlightenment principles that mainstream conservatives accept, uniting instead behind national pride, a critical stance towards feminism and Islam, and resistance to globalism.

 
 I don't know why i got as high as i did on this but probably because i pushed back on a lot of the most extremist elements of feminism and in one question mentioned they would be better off going after islam, with its extreme violations of human rights, rather than western societies, where we've largely achieved most kinds of equality as we'd define it.

I also did answer the one gamer gate question in a more conservative way about feminists staying out of video games, because quite frankly, im sick and tired of SJWs policing fandoms. So I guess this is more to do with my anti SJW mindset than a literal embrace of actual illiberal conservatism, which I fundamentally reject.

Or maybe a rejection of various radfem ideas automatically considers you conservative instead. idk. I think it's kinda high, all things considered.

Liberal Feminism

Liberal Feminism refers to feminist philosophy rooted in enlightenment principles. Its classical works were penned by thinkers such as Mary Wollstonecraft and John Stuart Mill. This type of feminism holds that men and women are each other’s equals and as such deserve equal rights. It is this type of feminism that people allude to when they say “feminism just means equal rights.”

As opposed to other forms of feminism, Liberal Feminism is individualistic (rather than group-based): Men and women deserve equal rights because both are individuals. Rights are granted to individuals, not genders or groups.

Liberal Feminism believes in equality of rights, not in equality of outcomes. For example, if a profession is dominated by only one gender, that does not necessarily mean that something is wrong: It could be the result of individuals making different decisions in life.

 This is the one I scored very high on, and this is actually where I largely think about things. I think mostly in terms of rights, and legal structures, and view men and women as individuals, and i hate to get into this identity politics BS mostly. 

Also fits my whole "Im not a feminist, I'm an equalist/egalitation" mentality, I just want equal rights, man. I dont care about the nuances to these weird specific forms of feminism.

Radical Feminism

Radical Feminism holds that men oppress women through internalized forms of dominance (i.e. patriarchy). Women must come together and end this oppression by rejecting traditional gender roles. Putting women in dresses, making them wear make-up and so on makes them sexual objects that perpetuate male dominance. Women must refuse to comply with the beauty standards that the patriarchy expects.

Radical Feminists see a link between men’s objectification of women and sexual violence and abuse. Prostitution, pornography, and advertisements that sexualize women are therefore not decisions that can be left to individual choice. They must be resisted by women everywhere as forms of male oppression.

As opposed to Liberal Feminism, which takes the individual as its focus, Radical Feminism holds that since men have oppressed women for so long, it may be necessary to discriminate against men in the process of revolutionizing society (for example by prioritizing women for high-end jobs or shutting men out of positions of power for a time).

 This is one of the ones I scored really low on, and it's not a surprise. It's the kind of feminism that often makes me reject the label with the obsession with the patriarchy, and opposing "objectification", and wanting to literally do reverse discrimination to put women in positions of power. Yeah, screw these guys. They're basically the nutcases I'm dealing with.

Marxist Feminism

Marxist Feminism holds that the mode of production in capitalist societies is organized in a way that favors men’s abilities over women’s. As opposed to Radical Feminists, who see patriarchy as the source of gender inequality, Marxist Feminists see capitalism as the cause. Marxist Feminists argue that the structures of capitalist economies coerce women into assuming responsibility for unpaid domestic tasks (such as homemaking and child-rearing) while leaving men free to earn money in the public sphere. Gender equality can therefore never be achieved in a capitalist economy.

While Marxist Feminism was originally about economic revolution, more recent writers have changed their focus from economic issues to cultural ones, placing more of an emphasis on the fight for social justice than the fight to topple capitalism.

Not just women, but also people of color, sexual minorities, and transgender people have become focal points for Marxist Feminism in recent years. Intersectional Feminism is essentially a fusion of Marxist Feminist and Cultural Feminist ideas.

 I scored moderate on this, and I'm not surprised. Despite not calling myself a marxist (see last article and how I often am open minded to things i dont identify as), I do tend to be sympathetic to a lot of marxist criticisms of the capitalist economy and I could see how my views at least partially align with this way of thinking.

Cultural Feminism

Cultural Feminism holds that women and men are essentially different and that women are generally more nurturing, more empathic, and less violent than men. Cultural Feminists seek to celebrate these qualities, which they believe have been oppressed by men.

Cultural Feminists believe that both men and women are hurt by contemporary male-dominated society, which they see as encouraging male behavior such as competition and conflict. According to Cultural Feminism, if women were given more power there would be less violence, fewer wars, and more understanding in the world.

The goal of Cultural Feminism is not to bring about some pre-scripted political revolution, but to improve tolerance and diversity by celebrating women's special qualities and unique experiences. Like Marxist Feminism, Cultural Feminism has in recent years expanded its focus from championing not just the perspectives of women, but also those of sexual and racial minorities as well.

 Yeah, this is just like men bad women good, and it gives me the weird vibes the barbie movie does in terms of its outlook on these issues. It really does come off as sexist against men to me, so yeah of course I'd reject it.

And yeah, that's my feminism test results and my reaction. This is why when pressed on the subject I say im technically a liberal feminist, because i clearly have a strong preference for that way of thinking, but i dont really like to call myself one either. Im also not a traditionalist though. I think the moderate results there were more a result of me backlashing against modern feminism going too far at times, and strongly rejecting some of the more radical forms of feminism's ideas. Marxist feminism probably is mdoerate because im open to marxist analysis and think it has value even if i dont identify with THAT either. And yeah, the more weirdo forms of feminism i just reject outright. I'm not a radfem or a cultural feminist, and think those guys are batcrap insane. 

I think this confirms my moderate position. Mostly a libfem, some conservative views, some leftist views, and a rejection of the radical and weird.

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