Saturday, November 30, 2024

Are Gen Z men okay?

 So, I decided to surf the internet to get to the bottom of the gen Z liking trump nonsense. And uh...what I found kind of concerns me. I can't say the left didn't bring this on itself to some extent, and it's possible these views are just heavily vocal people, but uh...yeah. It seems like we're turning a generation into monsters.

Generally speaking, what seems to drive gen Z men right is a rejection of social justice culture. They hate how so much of dating is done on the terms of women, and they seem to judge women for being "sluts" and not being loyal, and they just feel completely emasculated and like they don't fit into society properly. All of the old traditions still apply to men, but they don't apply to women, and it seems like a lot of gen Z men are becoming outright resentful and sexist toward women. Millennials had problems with MGTOW, incels, etc too, especially among the "social rejects" (and to be fair, I am one of the "social rejects", despite never identifying with these subcultures), but gen Z just seems to be going in a direction where they're that by default. They hate how the left is so obsessed with identity politics, and how it leaves them out, and again, they literally seem resentful to the left for it. So now they're going on about how they're alt right "gigachads" and adopting basically their own brand of toxic masculinity, while the women end up just becoming obnoxious SJWs. This culture isn't really healthy for either gender, but it seems to be the direction the world has gone.

I blame 2016 for this. Even more so, I blame Hillary Clinton for this. I remember when young white men like me were joining the democrats in droves. Many of us grew up conservative, but we shifted liberal over time, recognizing that those conservative values werent good for us. But then clinton leaned hard into identity politics, and alienated us. I mean, I'm going to be honest. I too was alienated. I rant about SJWs for a reason, but this new generation who is raised with this crap, and let's be honest, they are. In 2024, a first time voter is someone born in 2005-2006, and they were literally still pre teens when 2016 happened. So their entire adolescence has been this alt right vs social justice crap. And it literally does define their entire worldview. And many of them are full on rejecting the left, calling us "cucks" and "beta males" and blah blah blah while running hard right. 

And on economics, it isn't a ton better. I admit, I didn't do as much research on this. Most stuff I saw when it came to gen Z and politics seemed related to gender relations and dating. But I did find a topic about say, NEETs and all, and uh, yeah. Most of them have no sympathy. I understand a lot of them are still at that young and tender age where maybe they haven't hit the "real world" yet, but a lot of them just seem to blame the people and call them lazy. To be fair, if they're voting for trump that tracks. But yeah. They clearly havent had their faith in the system challenged, and maybe they never will. My generation, the millennials, was traumatized by the great recession. it radicalized us and made us left leaning. But people coming of age now in the 2020s were literally born when I was coming of age in the 2000s, and the circumstances of their short adulthoods and even teen years is defined more by COVID and the aftermath. Like, again, someone who is a first time voter in 2024, was like 14-15 when covid happened. They were a pre teen when trump was in his first term. Like, Obama to them is what clinton was for me. Trump and Biden are like george bush's two terms. And now they just elected Trump. 

Like, the economy is different, the issues are different. I no longer can say I really connect with the younger generation at all, because I am now old enough that I was an adult their entire lives. And all they know with politics is toxic identity crap that has made dating a complete dumpster fire on social issues, and economically, they've inherited this post covid economy with its low unemployment and high inflation. And that's what's defining their politics. Keep in mind, ages 14-24 are considered the prime window that defines someone's political worldview.

For me, that is around 2001-2012. Ie, 9/11 to my deconversion from christianity and shift toward the left. For someone who is an elder millennial say 10 years younger than me, that's 2011-2022. So basically they still remember the crapshow that was the recession and the era before modern politics, but covid still played a significant role.

But again, if you're born in say, 2005ish, like some younger gen Zers who can now vote, that window is basically 2019 to 2030. So COVID, the aftermath, and whatever comes next. There is time for them to change, but given all they really have to go off of is COVID and the biden presidency, as well as a toxic dating environment due to social justice crap, can anyone blame them for being hard right? I mean, I kinda get it when you frame it like that. The stuff that defined my views is not even on their radar, they werent even alive for much of it, and they dont remember the other half of it. It's like asking me to related to events that happened during Bush Sr.'s presidency. And to them, Bush Sr. is like what Gerald Ford is to me. Like your parents remember them, and you might read about them in history books, but you never experienced that for yourself. 

I have to admit, I'm finally at the age where I just dont get younger people any more. Like, elder zoomers, I do get along with I think. I still relate to them somewhat, but the younger ones? Man they kind of came to age in a crapshow, and it's not a huge surprise they're going the other way, because the democrats are hot garbage and all they do is morally police men over insular social issues. And they're rejecting that message outright. VIOLENTLY. 

Okay, not literally violently, but you get the idea. Like, I've always been critical of the SJW stuff, I remember it becoming a thing like 8-15 years ago. And when the democrats went all in with that, it seemed obvious that a lot of us men were quite frankly alienated from it. Even I was alienated from it, and I admit, if I was younger and less educated, I never would've stayed on the left. But I also recognized that in 2016, the left changed, and not for the better. I came over when the left was not only still good, but actually winning. And we lost that. We literally threw it away with Clinton's campaign in 2016. And I've, since then, been this independent leftie from a previous era that no longer exists who just feels trapped on the left. I recognize the right sucks, and i have no desire to go back, but I ain't happy here either. These younger zoomers, they're just outright say "F the left" and becoming not just right wing, but antagonistically so. It's the younger zoomers who are like "your body my choice". They are the ones who actively slut shame women and as some of us older people have pointed out, are starting to act like catholic puritans on dating. And it's scary. I never thought the next generation would become this conservative. But again, different frame of reference. 2001-2012 vs the post 2016 generation. Go figure. Like we are starting to see the fruits of this realignment. We are starting to see what toxic identity politics and economic centrism gets us. And it's causing the youngest generation to reject our politics RESOUNDINGLY. Like not only are they "I'm not feeling it", they're like "F you and everything you stand for."

Well, can't say I haven't been calling this crap since 2016. The real problem is, is it too late to do anything about it? I mean, for me, my politics was like this, except against the right. I rejected Bush. I rejected the tea party. I rejected Romney. I rejected the religious right. I rejected Reaganism. Conservatism did F all for me and if anything just made my life worse, so I rejected it. But now the new generation is coming of age, and they're feeling that way...about us. About the left. About Joe Biden. About Kamala Harris. About Hillary Clinton. They feel like we're out of touch. That our ideas aren't helping THEM. And you know what? They kinda have a point. Because what has the democratic party done for the country in the past decade? Biden was okay, but only okay, and okay isnt enough to really save anything. To these younger zoomers, biden sucks, social justice politics is trash, and these guys are kinda leaning hard right. It scares me. Things can change, but this trend among the youngest voters scares me. For the past two decades, it looked like the left was winning and the right was done. But now the right has come roaring back in the trump era, and now the shoe is on the other foot. Thanks Hillary, thanks a lot. My God, I will never get over my hate of that woman. She literally doomed us all. And we're gonna be suffering for the rest of our lives because of it.

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