Thursday, October 31, 2024

100(+) simulations until election day: Day 5

 So...whipped up another batch of 10. These are gonna be kind of weird...

Simulation 71

Solid harris win with AZ as a bonus. Not the most likely map, but it's within the realm of possibility and is one of the more "normal" ones of this bunch.

Simulation 72

Here we randomly lose virginia. 

Simulation 73

Another weird map where we lose virginia. 

Simulation 74

Weird blue kansas map...

Simulation 75

And this time we get blue iowa....

Simulation 76

Another red virginia, i had to keep double check to make sure the simulator wasn't broken...

Simulation 77

Another loss for dems. No real comment here.

Simulation 78

When we lose so bad we dont take a single "swing state" and lose new mexico. Great night for trump.

Simulation 79

Michigan, Wisconsin, and then...Nevada and Georgia. This is one of those "how do we win without Pennsylvania" maps. Given Georgia's probability of going blue is roughly 25% right now, i wouldnt count on it, but it's a possible path to victory.

Simulation 80

I mean, NH just got downgraded to "lean dem" so it's about as much of a swing state as AZ and GA are at this point...

Tally so far...

54 Trump, 25 Harris, 1 tie

This particular set of 10 is closer to a distribution that I'd expect, but yeah, we're 80% done with our sample of 100 and most are trump wins. Kinda depressing. Anyway, I'll finish this up over the next couple days and if I feel like it do other simulations too.



Trying to combat herding by looking at the most extreme polling results of each state

 So, if most pollsters are herding and smoothing out the averages to follow trends rather than risking being wrong by posting an outlier, then maybe in order to get a good idea of what's going on, we should look at the spread between the polls. After all, not ALL pollsters will herd, and if we get an idea of what the most extreme pollsters are saying, as they stick out like a sore thumb, maybe the outcome will be more of the more extreme ones rather than the averages. 

With that said, I'm gonna look at the polls on each of the 7 swing states and say what direction I feel like the energy is going in.

Michigan

 So, the average is Harris +0.4, but the polling results range from Harris +5, to Trump +2. And I know that there actually are a couple michigan multi candidate polls that RCP hasnt included despite otherwise not keeping up their multi candidate data since RFK dropped out (hence why I stopped tracking it), and they also seemed to be in the Harris +3 to Harris +5 range.

So...it seems like the spread here...favors Harris. And if we're gonna see an overperformance either way, I'd say it would be...for harris. Most of the trump polls are riding the average or are Trump +1 or Trump +2. The Harris polls tend to be relatively extreme. The reason the average favors trump as much as it does is because there are simply more of these Tie-Trump +2 polls. 

Wisconsin

Wisconsin is nominally Harris +0.2%. However, the results range from Harris +6 to Trump+2. So...this is basically mirroring Michigan in a way. Most results seem to be herding from Harris +1 to Trump +2, and then you got an outlier in Harris +6. It's very possible that this is more blue than it looks, if we assume the most extreme outlier polls are onto something.

Nevada

Here we have Trump +0.5 average, with results ranging from Harris +1 to Trump +2. So...basically, uniform, slightly in favor of Trump. I'm gonna call the average probably dead on. It's kinda symmetrical, but slightly favors Trump. But is still kinda a tossup. It's a tossup, that tilts trump. So basically it is what it is.

Pennsylvania

Trump +0.8% average...with the results ranging from Harris +3...to Trump +3. This is a true tossup, much like Nevada. Slightly in favor Trump, much like Nevada, but still a tossup. Most polls also seem to trend trump. So...idk. NV and PA are both "tilt trump" in practice here for a reason. Very close. Could go either way, but with trump having a slight edge.

North Carolina

Average is Trump +1.0, but the results range from Harris +3 to Trump +5. All in all, the Trump +1 average seems well earned all things considered, as the spread is 4 points in either direction. So...I'm gonna say this one tilts/leans trump. 

Georgia

This has an average of Trump +2.4%, with a spread between a Tie and Trump +6. I think it's very much in the lean trump territory and the odds of it going Harris are relatively low. 

Arizona

Here we have an average of Trump +2.5%, and a spread between Harris +1 and Trump +8. The range very much leans in favor of Trump.

The takeaway

As such, what can we assess from these polling ranges and averages?

Well, it seems clear AZ and GA are in the trump column. Let's just say that. They are. The majority of polls, if not all polls go toward trump, and it ranges from a tie to at most harris +1, to Trump +6-8. The average is +2.5 so yeah...that range of polling is very much in Trump's direction, and I feel comfortable calling those states for Trump.

The other five are nominal tossups. However, Wisconsin and Michigan both have polling ranges that favor democrats. Republicans can take them. I mean there are results that are as high as Trump +2 for trump, but there are also results as high as Harris +5 to +6. The herding is going toward the center, but yeah. That's the realistic 6-8 polling range that we see.

North Carolina is doing that in the other direction for Trump. We see Harris +3 to Trump +5, but that range generally favors Trump. Harris can win, but Trump is the obvious favorite. 

Nevada and Pennsylvania are the real head scratchers. Nevada goes Harris +1 to Trump +2, and slightly favors trump, so im tempted to call it a tilt trump state. But it is a tossup. 

Pennsylvania is the crown jewel and the state that basically makes or breaks both campaigns. It's Trump +3 to Harris +3, so perfectly balanced. But the average has more polls leaning toward trump. Could this be herding? Maybe. Could it be what the results are? maybe. But yeah. Tilt trump.

All in all, this gives us...just about the same map we already have. With MI and WI being blue tilting tossups, NV, PA, and NC being red tilting tossups, and GA and AZ being red leaning not tossups. The averages....end up KINDA accurately reflecting the range of the polling. And my current prediction...stands as it is. 251-287 is the most likely outlook, although the error in WI/MI/PA/NV/NC can make ANYTHING happen. AZ and GA, again, i feel more confident to write them off to the red column, but the other 5 is where the real magic is gonna happen. If things tilt toward the dems, they'll win. If things tilt toward the reps, they'll win. It's just a matter of which side the error actually favors. And again, keep in mind, a point in either direction can make or break this entire thing. So yeah, if anything, this exercise just confirms to me that...this thing is a huge tossup right now and the odds my formal prediction has are...roughly accurate.

Wednesday, October 30, 2024

100+ Simulations until election day: Day 4

 So, I did 10 more simulations to add to the pile.

Simulation 61

So I'm going to admit, this one popped up right when I was fixing my simulator after removing New Jersey from the list of swinf states, and I didnt even resize the map yet. But I've been wanting this one to come up so I grabbed it. This is the most likely trump win, if trump overperforms the polls. he wins all 7 swing states, but falls short of taking anything else. This has a very high probability of being the REAL map. This is also the only not entirely random one of the bunch. it came up randomly, but I wanted it to come up at some point, so when i saw it, i screenshotted it immediately, even though I wasn't doing this exercise at the time.

Simulation 62

Another harris loss, nothing special here. As I said a lot of these are boring and I have little to nothing to add.

Simulation 63

Another Harris win, just with Arizona instead of Wisconsin. 

Simulation 64

Cant win without Wisconsin here. Another Trump win.

Simulation 65

Wisconsin and Michigan defect again...another loss.

Simulation 66

Another weirdo combo, where Harris only wins like 2 states and Trump wins. Would you believe all of the scenarios posted are to my knowledge unique?

Also, red minnesota again...

Simulation 67

Another weird map with red minnesota and new hampshire.

Simulation 68

WI/MI/PA/GA except VA defects. Well, they did just remove people from their voter rolls so...who knows? it can happen.

Simulation 69

Basically what my prediction is now. 

Simulation 70

Blue Ohio and Kansas but red Minnesota, another oddball map. 

Tally so far..

48 Trump, 21 Harris, 1 tie

Idk what it is with this sample being so different than my normal samples which are a lot more even. For this exercise I'm getting far more trump wins than this simulator normally gives me. When I do 100 simulations and record the results, I'm using this exact simulator, with the exact data I'm using now. And while yes, the data is changing day to day as polling is bonkers right now, the overall probabilities of things arent radically changing.

It's like if I do a small sample of 10 it gives me trump outcomes but if i do a larger sample overall i get more harris outcomes. it's really weird. Part of me suspects the random number generators arent actually fully random, although any attempt to study their randomness actually gives me fairly uniform results over the long term. But in the short term i get more red outcomes. it's weird. Idk why. 

Anyway that's today's batch. I'll keep going like this until i hit 100 then I'll use the other spreadsheet with the modded variables to push out some of those more pro trump or pro harris type maps that you'd get if the candidates overperform but don't come up because this simulator seems to mostly settle upon outcomes that are in the middle. As you can tell, very few outcomes exceed the 226-312 or 319-219 thresholds of both candidates and the ones that do tend to be in the top 2% of outcomes for each candidate respectively. To compensate for this, I would like to eventually do some maps with a 4% overperformance for either candidate. But again, doing 100 normal simulations at first. 

Responding to Kyle Kulinski's segment on how the polling could be underestimating Kamala Harris

 So...yeah. Polling has been under fire A LOT this year. Some people have said because polls were off a few points in previous election cycles, that that means polling is useless, to which I respond: "learn statistics, dingus!". We've had accusations of right wing pollsters putting their finger on the scales, which have proved to be...mostly BS. And even if it wasn't, after what happened in 2020, I'm not about to change how I calculate things because of those accusations. And then there's the "herding" accusation. Which Kyle addresses in his segment today. Basically, the argument is that pollsters are so afraid of being wrong, that we're getting what's called "herding." The pollsters end up all having suspiciously uniform polls that defy our statistical understanding of polling error, where they're all getting the same results, and the results are all roughly 50-50. Basically, no one ones to be that one outlier who got it wrong, so they're all manipulating their results to show the race being tied. 

Eh...yeah, I do think that could happen. Now, am I gonna do anything about it? No. My actual argument is "throw it on the pile" and let the polling averages figure it out. I'm not doing weird things to data myself to compensate for what other people do to the data. I tried that last time, it blew up in my face. No. not doing it. But I do respect the argument. 

Honestly, this is actually why those "right wing pollsters" arent manipulating the averages. because their results are literally conforming to the averages. Whatever the polling average is, they report the same average, and then other pollsters copy that, and yeah, it's like a whole class cheating on a test by looking at what the kid next to them is doing. Except then that kid is looking at what the kid next to them is doing, so the whole class outside of like 2-3 honest ones get the same answer. 

It could also be why the race has trended toward 50-50. Because everyone is so afraid of being wrong so they're just going 50-50 so they can turn around and say no matter what they did....the polling was technically correct. They dont want to be embarrassed either by a 2020 underestimation of the republicans, or an overestimation in 2022. So they're just kinda hedging their bets either way so they break even. 

And yeah...it can happen. Now, what do I think the reality is? I don't know. I just follow the polling. I dont DO polling, Im not a polling agency, I'm a jack### with a spreadsheet that takes data other people collect and analyze it. If they did something to it where it's wrong, i don't know. I rely on their data to get an idea of where things are, and if the data is wrong, then I'm gonna be wrong too.

Do I have a better method of knowing the truth? No. I don't trust allen lichtman's 13 keys, that's for darn sure, and I also don't trust vibes. Because vibes are subjective. And my own biases show through. if I were to go by vibes, i dont even know anyway. Because this seems like an election where the electorate is fired up, which means I expect it to be like both 2020 and 2022. BUT...with that said, in 2020, the polling way overestimated biden, and in 2022, it overestimated the republicans. We got almost the same result both times, but at the same time, that's the thing. What changed between those two election cycles was the polling. The right wing pollsters bombing the averages ended up being right as most pollsters systemically underestimated the republican vote. But then people overcompensated for it in 2022 and we ended up with dems overperforming several points.

In 2024, we could go either way, and narratives speak to it going either way. And there are so many arguments that can be thrown in either direction. I could point to the national vote being roughly tied as evidence the electoral college is down a few points, but given both the electoral college and the tipping point states have the same general polling average right now, putting trump ahead by less than a point, that could ALL be herding. Maybe the reason the national averages are matching the swing states is because of herding. In that case, we could argue HARRIS is being underestimated. 

But that's the thing, we don't know. And honestly, we can point to early voting showing strong showing for republicans, but at the same time, we can also point to the fact that the early voting is less polarized than it was in 2020 due to covid not being a factor to argue against that. The fact is WE DONT KNOW. WE ARE FLYING BLIND! I'm just taking the data, making my best guesses based on the data, and then giving predictions. And it is literally a tossup. 

Like here's the thing. If the race is 48-48 nationally, that can mean harris has anywhere between 52 and 44 points, and so does trump. So...that means the actual outcome can be anything between 52 trump 44 harris, and 52 harris 44 trump. It's a literal 16 point spread, based on a 4 point margin of error. And that can look radically different.

You know what, I was gonna save this until election day, but I was going to devise a version of my chart that I can add over/underperformance variables to and show you what the map looks like with it going in any direction. This will be similar to my early 2016 predictions where instead of doing probabilities, I showed what an over/underperformance would look like. 

Current prediction

So this is where we stand right now. Wisconsin and Michigan are tilting blue, Pennsylvania, Nevada, and North Carolina are tilting red, and we're looking at a 43% chance for Harris, a 57% chance for Trump, with a 251-287 electoral count. This is IF THE POLLS ARE DEAD ON. Which they very well might be. 

Remember, there's a reason I say that if the race is within a point on the tipping point, it's a tossup. This is what the race looks like if Harris overperforms by a single point:

 



Technically, this is 1.01 points, but you get the idea. I didn't wanna leave NC a tossup. So yeah, let's assume Harris overperforms a point and is able to win any state within a point. Basically, you get 292-246. NC, NV, and PA flip blue. This is why this race is a tossup. Because this is VERY EASILY happen. Keep in mind, polling is the median prediction. It's the 48-48 that can be 52-44 or 44-52. And we don't know where on that spectrum it will be. All things considered, polling actually seems to do a good job, although I admit the industry could be doing weird stuff this year that leads to an over or underperformance.

Say we get a 2016 or 2020 like scenario were Trump overperforms by 3-4 on average. What would the map look like?

Welcome back, Joe Biden. If the polls are wrong on election day, and Trump overperforms, this is what the map's gonna look like. 226-312. Heck, even with a Trump +1 map, you'd STILL get 226-312. It's a very likely combination. Because it assumed trump wins all 7 swing states, but stops short of taking any blue wall states. Look at minnesota, this is why my simulator keeps randomly spitting out red minnesota outcomes. 

But yeah, if trump overperforms on election day, this is what the map will look like.

Now, at the same time, things could flip back to Harris. Say this is more like a 2022 year where the red wave is a red mirage and harris actually kicks butt? I could see it happening. Polling is WAY more red than it was in 2016 and 2020 and maybe it isnt so much shifts in the electorate, but rather pollsters overestimating Trump to avoid a 2016-2020 repeat. What would the map look like in THAT scenario? 

I doubt the pink kansas thing would happen as that's likely polling error, but yeah. This is the "2022 dems overperform, everything is great, let's all be arrogant resistlibs on the internet laughing at the bedwetters" scenario. And it could happen. This is why some say the most likely scenario is actually 226-312 OR 319-219. Either can happen. As can anything in between.

Now, let's take things to the next level. Here's what I consider the 98th percentile trump outcome, basically at what I consider the margin of error. This is that "52-44 in favor of trump" scenario I'm talking about.

This is what i consider the ABSOLUTE BEST CASE SCENARIO for trump. 

And here's the same for Harris:

ANY of these scenarios can happen. And we can get ANYTHING in between those two last maps. I'd say maps between the R+4 and D+4 scenarios are what's LIKELY to happen, but anything beyond that CAN still happen. So yeah. When I give like a 43-57 Trump forecast with like 251-287 outcome. That's just the middle scenario. I have no idea what the actual outcome will be. 

And yeah, if pollsters are just doing polls wrong, well, buckle in, we can get some crazy crap happening that isn't expected. We could get ANY of the above scenarios. We just don't know which one until election day.


Tuesday, October 29, 2024

Did Biden just screw us over?

 So...in response to the crass racist jokes at the MSG rally, Joe Biden called Trump's supporters "garbage." First, let me just say that part of me LOVES this version of Biden. This dude genuinely doesn't give a frick after being forced out of running for a second term. He says what he thinks and he's very off the cuff.

At the same time...this is giving basket of deplorable vibes. And that helped Hillary lose 2016. Attacking Trump's supporters will just galvanize them and maybe swing a few remaining fence sitters that way and uh...yeah. I honestly think trump screwed himself this weekend, but now harris might be screwed. Idk. We will see in a week, but uh....yeah. A lot of dems who remember 2016 are like "oh no, he didn't just say that..." right now. The collective PTSD runs deep. But yeah, he did.

"You're not wrong, Joe, you're just an ###hole..." as the saying goes. And yeah. He wasnt wrong, but he very much lacked tack that we seriously need. Of course, who knows, the dems seem to be at their best when they fight back so maybe this is what we need. We'll have to see. 

100(+) simulations until election day: day 3 part 2

 So I decided to do some more. Some of these are a bit more interesting, although some are mundane.

Simulation 51

Blue Texas is OP.

Simulation 52

On the flip side, frustrating to win 5/7 swing states but lose because of virginia and new hampshire.

Simulation 53

So...we somehow lose michigan and pennsylvania, but make up for it with ohio and iowa. Weird map. Will never actually happen, but weird.

Simulation 54

Imagine losing because New Mexico randomly defects. Weird map. 

Simulation 55

Not enough swing states, no real comment.

Simulation 56

Another weird rust belt win map without wisconsin. 

Simulation 57

Another weird rust belt win with michigan defecting.

Simulation 58

Solid win for trump.

Simulation 59

And another one...

Simulation 60

We didn't win michigan but we won many of the other swing states.

Tally so far...

40 Trump, 19 Harris, 1 tie

Here we had a decent selection of Harris wins, but we also got some trump wins similar to the ones we got. it's amazing how many different outcomes this thing is producing. Not all of them are realistic and make sense, but many are. Still, the 226-312 and 319-219 outcomes didn't come up yet. As we know from the big simulator, those are actually relatively rare in this simulator, although kind of common in reality due to the fact that states trend together and the national environment often overpowers randomness. Ah well. After doing the 100 (i figure I'll do 100 random ones), i figure i'll throw in some more that fit certain themes. I might program what i would expect from the simulator if either trump or harris systematically overperform, stuff like that. Maps that i think should come up but havent yet. But...I do wanna at least run 40 more random ones over the next few days first before I start putting my finger on the scale. Ya know? Make it fair.











100(+) simulations until election day: Day 3

 So...I'm gonna be honest. Tedium is setting in with this exercise and it's getting boring. I'm getting maps that look very similar to maps already posted, many of them are uninteresting, and did you know that with this batch we will have had 5 unique 251-287 outcomes? Heheheh....yeah. This si turning into grass growing. And I don't get it. When I did the 100 simulations for today's election update, i was getting actual interesting maps at least some of the time. But these? These are just...boring. So I'll post them. I might comment on a few, but if I don't have anything to really say, I'm just gonna post the image and move on. Obviously not all of these deserve commentary.

Simulation 41

I literally did a double take to make this this wasn't posted before. We've had 3 257-281 outcomes already, and this one is different than all of them. 

Simulation 42

Other than blue Iowa, this is a boring map. 

Simulation 43

How we can lose PA an still win, all 4 states we won are tossups right now.

Simulation 44

The first electoral college tie, brought to you by...red minnesota. I doubt this one is happening...

Simulation 45

Imagine winning georgia and nothing else...

Simulation 46

That awkward moment when the free palestine whackos cost harris the election...

Simulation 47

First blue kansas map, brought to you by...the one single kansas poll being an extreme outlier. Expect a lot of these as time goes on, they happen 10% of the time give or take.

Simulation 48

Cant win without PA NC or GA with this configuration...

Simulation 49

WI/MI/PA/IA? Weird map but obama era esque...all it needs is ohio...

Simulation 50


Even if we win NC...without NV it is all for nought. 

Tally so far...

35 Trump, 14 Harris, 1 tie

Idk why this random set of simulations is doing this. When I did 100 today from this exact same simulator for my election update, I got 51-47. Here it's going 14-35. That's weird. Trump shouldnt be winning 70% of outcomes. This must be a bad sample but this is what comes up. Kinda irritates me when i saw a lot of nice harris wins in that sample but didnt wanna cherrypick because then it wouldnt be really random. *sigh*, actually random outcomes seem increasingly boring though. I'm sorry, but I'm tired of 257-281, I really am. And then not a single blue texas in 50 outcomes.

Well, that's randomness I guess...







Election Update 10/29/24

 So...one week until election day. Let's see where things stand.

Presidential

It seems like Trump's upward momentum has slowed to stopped. I wouldn't be too overly optimistic though. Things are still flipping back and forth. We're getting tons of polls in given we're now in the last week and things are flipping erratically. Michigan has flipped to the blue column, pennsylvania is trending blue slightly, but then wisconsin trends red. Arizona is all over the place. I forgot to resort the map for nevada, but that's trending blue. All in all, we're at 45-55 in trump's favor. Even though i give the advantage to trump, the real reason i was dooming last week is the momentum. But it seems like trump's overall momentum has slowed or even stopped. 

I wanna make things clear. With probabilities like this, a stiff breeze can push the race in either direction. I'm serious, the MSG rally might've just done it for Harris. Latinos are OUTRAGED, and the environment here in my majority latino city is one of anger toward trump. There's a lot of mobilization to vote for harris here right now. Canvassers are out, convincing latinos to vote for harris, I've seen them reaching out to my neighbors already. Yeah. 

Like, there are half a million latinos here in PA and while latinos vote republican by a 1 to 2 margin (meaning 2/3 vote democrats), i think insulting them is gonna drive dem numbers up. This might be the actual october surprise, the 2024 equivalent of the james comey thing. And the worst thing for trump was this was just a total unforced error.

But yeah. I wanna point out, if Harris overperforms by even half a point, she wins 276-262. Basically, you know simulation map #18 from my simulations? Yeah. That. 

That's all it will take to win the election. Just half a point...

And I've seen articles about how polling methodology changes could shift outcomes by as much as 8. So we have no idea what's going on here. The election margins are razor thin and it's possible any outcome within my 8 point 95% confidence interval can happen. That can range from a 389-149 outcome for Harris to a 194-344 outcome for Trump. Anything is on the table just about. My simulation mostly gives me outcomes involving the 7 swing states but it can go all over the place. 

Speaking of simulations, yeah, expect blue kansas to start happening on occasion. R+5 poll dropped for kansas yesterday, it's the only poll for kansas on both 538 and RCP, so...yeah. I don't expect it to be an R+5 state, more like R+15, I think this is another solid red state with an outlier, but I feel intellectually obligated to include it here given my methodology and model. We'll see if it actually happens but I doubt it. State's probably R+13 and had an outlier or something. Kansas never goes left of Missouri to my knowledge. 

Anyway, that's the presidency. I'm feeling less doomerish today. Let's see where the momentum goes this week, because this right here is the make or break moment of the campaign. And if Trump falls apart and Harris keeps it together, boom, we win.

Senate

Ouch. So....the Nebraska race....RCP finally started covering it so I switched to their polling average which is R+2. Who knows if the other 538 polls were accurate? I was using their data just to get something, but yeah now I'm using RCP like I do for everything else. 

That puts us back at 49-51, with it being an uphill battle to even break 50-50. Let alone win 51+. We need that Nebraska seat for a tie, and we need texas or florida to actually win. It can happen, it's just not likely.

On the other side what's looking increasingly likely is that we might lose some rust belt seats. Wisconsin is within a point, Ohio is at 1 point. Pennsylvania is just over a point. Michigan is lean D, but still, a republican overperformance could wipe out the rust belt. It's not a good situation. Republicans have a 69% chance to control the senate outright, with the other 31% split between a tie and dem control. Not really good.

House

So I just had to redo the entire house forecast since new polls came in after I posted it, and then a race I assumed to the red column had a D+2 poll and adding it changed my entire forecast. The house is now a tossup, with CO8 being a literal tie breaker. This brings the odds down to 50-50 and makes it dead locked at 217-217. I can no longer project a winner. The simulation still favors republicans though.

Simulations

I'm reverting completely to 100 simulations of each. Giving up on the big simulators. Too complicated to deal with. 

Presidency- 47 Harris, 51 Trump, 2 ties

Senate- 1 Dem, 90 Rep, 9 Tie

House- 25 Dem, 75 Rep (EDITED)

Basically, congress heavily favors republicans in my model, but keep in mind that model uses a much different formula for calculations different from my actual forecast. it's good to see what can happen but not at what WILL happen. 

Conclusion

Anyway, I'd say at least trump isn't gaining much ground. We are losing it in congressional races somewhat, but despite the simulations, anything can happen, and the simulations are flawed. The presidency is a tossup, the the house is a tossup, and the senate is only lean R. We are still in this. And given the MSG rally, i think that's gonna hurt him. So we can still turn this around. Just push for the last week and do the best we can.