Sunday, June 9, 2024

What the lower end GPU market should look like these days

 So, I had another discussion about GPU prices, and I just wanted to add a summary of what I think GPU prices should look like, if they followed previous trends or CPU prices in recent years. The GPU market in particular has had a lot of inflation as companies like nvidia kinda shifted away from gaming toward AI and datacenters, driving up the price of GPUs for normies like us. 

I guess for the sake of argument I'll set the standard for $100 near the bottom end of being a 1060/580 tier card. It was midrange 6-8 years ago so I'm basically being generous. I think it's reasonable to expect such hardware to be around $100 these days, not $160. With that said, let's discuss the actual product stack.

RX 6400- $65

GTX 1650- $80

RX 6500- $100

RTX 3050 6 GB- $120

RTX 3050- $150

Arc A580- $150

RX 6600- $175

Arc A750- $175 

RTX 3060- $190

RX 6650 XT- $200

Arc 770- $200

RX 7600-  $220

Arc A770 16 GB- $230

RTX 4060- $230

RX 7600 XT- $250

RX 6700 XT- $260

RTX 4060 ti 8 GB- $300

RX 6800- $320

RTX 4060 ti 16 GB- $330

RX 7700 XT- $350

RX  6800 XT- $375

RX  7800 XT- $400

RTX 4070- $400

RX  6900/6950 XT- $400

Now, to be fair, I it could be argued I lowballed things somewhat on the higher end of that. I basically went all in with price/performance roughly and to be fair, GPUs never scaled perfectly with price/performance. You always had the deals under $200 kinda suck and the deals above $300 kind of decline in value as one goes up to 70 cards, 80 cards, etc.

Still, this is a good outline of what could have been and what makes sense. Right now the sub $200 market is trash. You got the RX 6600 at $180-200 at times but then the RX6500 XT is only like half as good and is like $160. Same with the 1650. The 6400 is $130. It's insulting. You lose  so much performance just trying to save $40-60, it's insane. And honestly those kinds of low end cards are really the kinds of cards you'd historically expect at or under $100. 50 cards always sold for $100-150ish so seeing the 3050s where they are make sense. Having the last gen and lower end 60 cards near $200 while the higher end and newer ones near $300 makes sense to me. 70 style cards around $400 does make sense.

I guess if I were gonna complete the stack and go up from here:

RTX 4070 super- $450

RX 7900 GRE- $450

RTX 4070 ti- $500

RTX 4070 ti super- $550

RX 7900 - $550

RTX 4080- $600

RX  7900 XTX- $600

RTX 4090- $700

This roughly follows pascal pricing from 2016-2017. In a sane world this is what GPUs would cost these days. We're not in a sane world. And I know a lot of PC hardware nerds like to make excuses and defend multi billion dollar corporations' decisions to the point of not just licking boot, but deepthroating the whole shoe, but the real cause of the inflated prices is a market failure. When one company has 88% of market share, and the other company barely competes and merely matches the other on value, then don't be surprised when the market gets as broken as it does. As for intel, well they're barely relevant given they have one generation of cards that are super twitchy and experimental and not really fit for most consumers. They might prove to be a good competitor if they ever get mature drivers but until then, were mostly stuck with nvidia and amd. 

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